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http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-278 Dana Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:28:16 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-278 "Money shot" is the term many use for the angle from S. Saunder St. It's kind of funny to me because it makes me think of the movie "Swingers" as well as being a view that features a tall bank building. It's interesting how much better this collection of buildings looks from this angle than it looks from the Boylan bridge or from Dorothea Dix.
“Money shot” is the term many use for the angle from S. Saunder St. It’s kind of funny to me because it makes me think of the movie “Swingers” as well as being a view that features a tall bank building.
It’s interesting how much better this collection of buildings looks from this angle than it looks from the Boylan bridge or from Dorothea Dix.
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-275 jbgraves Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:18:14 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-275 I am so sorry to be the one to point this out, but I can't help myself. You used money shot in quotes. Care to elaborate?
I am so sorry to be the one to point this out, but I can’t help myself. You used money shot in quotes. Care to elaborate?
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-273 Lew Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:58:10 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-273 Marriot - that thing of a hotel design would fit in perfectly alongside I95. It's really sad when you have to wait for another building to be constructed that will cover yours up. I mean where did they get that design from ... the 1970's Marriot Architectural storage closet?
Marriot – that thing of a hotel design would fit in perfectly alongside I95. It’s really sad when you have to wait for another building to be constructed that will cover yours up. I mean where did they get that design from … the 1970’s Marriot Architectural storage closet?
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Ernest Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:32:26 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-267 Let me join those of you who are disappointed with the new Marriott Hotel. I know it is too late now, but the city leaders should be aware that there is a large group of people who are not happy with the way things look today. I had my doubts about the size of the hotel before they even broke ground and I am sad to say I was not wrong - I wish I was. The ONLY reason why I would let our city leaders know about my disappointment is because I want them to realize that wasting city-owned properties on such bad projects should not be in their agenda. They should ensure that such investments do not take place on Sites 2 and 3. It is a shame having to bet on Site One and Lafayette to cover the mediocrity of Marriott Hotel. For a good idea of what Flash envisioned, check out his renderings/photos: http://raleighskyline.com/content/2006/10/29/the-future-raleigh-skyline/ Flash has taken a more conservative approach, as you can see. Site One and Lafayette will be wider and therefore have more impact than shown in the renderings. The Hillsborough will definitely be shorter, although Flash got it right based on the data we had back then when he put the rendering together. The new Wake County Justice Center and the Clarence Lightner Public Safety Center will prove to be the dark horses, I think. Both of them will end up taller than the Marriott Hotel, although the elevation on those two sites is lower and the impact will be kept minimal.
Let me join those of you who are disappointed with the new Marriott Hotel. I know it is too late now, but the city leaders should be aware that there is a large group of people who are not happy with the way things look today. I had my doubts about the size of the hotel before they even broke ground and I am sad to say I was not wrong – I wish I was. The ONLY reason why I would let our city leaders know about my disappointment is because I want them to realize that wasting city-owned properties on such bad projects should not be in their agenda. They should ensure that such investments do not take place on Sites 2 and 3. It is a shame having to bet on Site One and Lafayette to cover the mediocrity of Marriott Hotel.
For a good idea of what Flash envisioned, check out his renderings/photos:
http://raleighskyline.com/content/2006/10/29/the-future-raleigh-skyline/
Flash has taken a more conservative approach, as you can see. Site One and Lafayette will be wider and therefore have more impact than shown in the renderings. The Hillsborough will definitely be shorter, although Flash got it right based on the data we had back then when he put the rendering together. The new Wake County Justice Center and the Clarence Lightner Public Safety Center will prove to be the dark horses, I think. Both of them will end up taller than the Marriott Hotel, although the elevation on those two sites is lower and the impact will be kept minimal.
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-266 Dana Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:20:57 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-266 TJ, I'm pretty sure that Flash did not to that downtown rendering. It is the "official" one that RBC put out when they announced the new design which added the birthday party hat to the top. They took the official Marriott rendering from some point and added their building.
TJ,
I’m pretty sure that Flash did not to that downtown rendering. It is the “official” one that RBC put out when they announced the new design which added the birthday party hat to the top. They took the official Marriott rendering from some point and added their building.
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-265 tj Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:04:46 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-265 Did Flash do that downtown rendering?
Did Flash do that downtown rendering?
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-264 RaleighRob Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:59:58 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-264 Good eye for noticing these differences. I'll wait for completion before judging how RBC Plaza turns out. Who knows how it'll turn up. Alot depends on angle and such. For example, in my eye, both West and Quorum look taller than they are if you're driving into downtown down Capital Blvd. (Is it just me?) And for some reason, on some days coming down Western Blvd from the Mission Valley area, the Wachovia building looks huge.
Good eye for noticing these differences.
I’ll wait for completion before judging how RBC Plaza turns out. Who knows how it’ll turn up.
Alot depends on angle and such. For example, in my eye, both West and Quorum look taller than they are if you’re driving into downtown down Capital Blvd. (Is it just me?) And for some reason, on some days coming down Western Blvd from the Mission Valley area, the Wachovia building looks huge.
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-257 Andy W. Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:49:34 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-257 Another large project that is a good comparison is the new Terminal 2 at RDU. From the renderings I have seen, and the construction I see practially everyday, they are very similar. Somewhat hard to see right now that only half of the building is under construction. Easy to forget too that twice the money is being spent for this building in comparison to the Convention Center downtown.
Another large project that is a good comparison is the new Terminal 2 at RDU. From the renderings I have seen, and the construction I see practially everyday, they are very similar. Somewhat hard to see right now that only half of the building is under construction. Easy to forget too that twice the money is being spent for this building in comparison to the Convention Center downtown.
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-256 dbearhug Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:51:30 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-256 I can't wait to see this photo when the Cree shimmer wall is installed on the west face of the convention center. This view will definitely pop!! http://www.raleighconvention.com/index.php/homepage/news?action=news-detail&neid=29
I can’t wait to see this photo when the Cree shimmer wall is installed on the west face of the convention center. This view will definitely pop!!
http://www.raleighconvention.com/index.php/homepage/news?action=news-detail&neid=29
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-249 TONY Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:06:53 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-249 Look on the bright side, "The Layfette" will cover up that ugly second rate hotel (Marriott). Who has labeled this 4 Star - it is not a 4 star and should never be recognized as a 4 star? Anybody associated with this hotel should be "fired", especially the architect, what an embarrassing building. Hopefully, "The Layfette get's taller than the planned 22 floors, either way, we will only see a sliver of this hotel.
Look on the bright side, “The Layfette” will cover up that ugly second rate hotel (Marriott). Who has labeled this 4 Star – it is not a 4 star and should never be recognized as a 4 star? Anybody associated with this hotel should be “fired”, especially the architect, what an embarrassing building. Hopefully, “The Layfette get’s taller than the planned 22 floors, either way, we will only see a sliver of this hotel.
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-248 Dana Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:38:37 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-248 HA ha. Thanks Bill! In order to recreate the downtown shot in the rendering, I loaded the rendering into my Treo. I then went and parked in the grass on S. Saunders St. extension and walked around looking at the rendering trying to line up objects such as light poles and signs. The actual spot the original was taken is now obscured by tree limbs, so I had to settle for a spot a couple of steps away. I took it with a 10.5MP Canon RebelxTi with an 18-55mm lens, then cropped the image on my computer to match the rendering's borders. That is a great view of downtown. The road descends and you get a good view of almost every building pretty far down to their bases.
HA ha. Thanks Bill! In order to recreate the downtown shot in the rendering, I loaded the rendering into my Treo. I then went and parked in the grass on S. Saunders St. extension and walked around looking at the rendering trying to line up objects such as light poles and signs. The actual spot the original was taken is now obscured by tree limbs, so I had to settle for a spot a couple of steps away.
I took it with a 10.5MP Canon RebelxTi with an 18-55mm lens, then cropped the image on my computer to match the rendering’s borders.
That is a great view of downtown. The road descends and you get a good view of almost every building pretty far down to their bases.
http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-247 Bill Mather Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:05:55 +0000 http://www.gogoraleigh.com/2008/02/29/short-changed/#comment-247 Nice comparisons. I had forgotten about the glass controversy in the RBC Center. It looks right, now. Is there a secret to getting the "perfect shot" of downtown? It almost looks like the phtographer was in the air.
Nice comparisons. I had forgotten about the glass controversy in the RBC Center. It looks right, now. Is there a secret to getting the “perfect shot” of downtown? It almost looks like the phtographer was in the air.